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14 mai Good People go to HellEverything an unbeliever does is sinful, right? (Heb 11:6). Tad wrote me, "What we must do is love the sinner and despise the sin ..only encourage .. ask them to pray .. look into scripture .. 'seek and ye sha'll find'. im speaking of the seeker . someone is at the end of their road and calling out to God ( you may call it prayer or a "cry" ). I'm not speaking of an individual who claims to be 'spiritual' .. i'm speaking of someone who is actively reading the Scripture .. and seeking to know God , as only as allows ." My response: G'day Tad! Thanks for your msg. I assume we both agree that an unbeliever's prayer is sin? "Those in the flesh cannot please God" (Rom 8:8). Prayers of unbelievers do not please God, because unbelievers always pray "to the god of this world ... who rules in their hearts ... their father is the devil" (John 8:44 etc). So when an unbeliever prays, he's praying to the devil. If he prays "for faith", his prayer (by definition) is a work of unbelief. If he "seeks to become spiritual", then it logically follows that his seeking is a lust of the flesh (since he admits he is not of the Spirit when he "seeks" to become spiritual). So you are telling unbelievers to sin, right? Because an unbeliever's pray = sin. In fact, you're telling unbelievers to pray to the devil. "The Gentiles sacrifice to devils". (1 Cor 10:20). In other words, when an unbeliever prays, he is always praying to a devil (a god of his own mind). The apostles on the other hand told men to pray "with faith, not wavering" (James 1). They told men TO BELIEVE and commanded unbelievers to obey the whole Law WITH FAITH. They did NOT tell men to "pray for faith", since a prayer for faith, must always (by definition) be a prayer of unbelief. You will never find them telling men *how* to become a believer or how to be converted. That would be as ridiculous as telling an animal how to become a believer! (Unbelievers are "brute beasts", Jude 1:10) Oh... I forgot something. Tad - Do you think prayer is a requirement in order to be saved? If no, then why do you tell unbelievers to pray BEFORE salvation? If prayer is NOT required for salvation, then why should they bother? I suspect you think prayer is a requirement for salvation....(That's why you tell unbelievers to do it, in order to be saved) Romans
10: 20 But Isaiah is very bold and says, "I was found by those not
seeking Me; I became known to those not inquiring after Me." Quoting
Isa. 65:1 Isaiah 30: 21 And your ears shall hear a word behind you, saying, This is the way, walk in it, when you go right, or when you go left. CommentairesPour ajouter un commentaire, connectez-vous avec votre identifiant Windows Live ID (si vous utilisez Messenger ou Xbox LIVE, vous avez un identifiant Windows Live ID). Connectez-vous Vous n'avez pas d'identifiant Windows Live ID ? Inscrivez-vous RétroliensL'URL de rétrolien de ce billet est : http://acbain.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!A9E04F7565EBB183!113.trak Blogs Web qui font référence à ce billet
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